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of face time with president obama and mitt romney. both campaigned hard in the buckeye state tuesday. in fact romney is spending four out of five days there this week. the reason? a new cnn orc international poll shows it is a close race for ohio's 18 electoral votes with 51% backing president obama, 47% for romney. made closer after last week's debate. meanwhile ohio's election chief has asked the supreme court to reinstate a new lieu that cuts off the final three days of early voting. an appeals court blocked the law pushed through by state republicans. as romney continues to campaign in ohio, president obama is back at the white house this morning. and nbc's tracie potts joins us with all the latest from washington. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, everyone. the president dealing with romney closing the gap in a number of these battleground states, continues to say that the $5 trillion tax cut romney's proposing would add to the deficit and romney insists it is absolutely not true. >> he said if he says it's not true, then it's not true. okay. >> reporter: in battleground
battleground, obama and romney both in ohio tonight. the state that matters most to republicans. first, romney kicks off the day at a family farm in iowa where he will be speaking minutes from now. and the battle over big bird, the president turns his attack into a punch line and a commercial, as sesame workshop and senator john mccain cried foul over the obama campaign's new bird ad. >> elmo is -- has been seen in a white suburban he's driving for the border. oscar is hide out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> one thing that president obama can't run on is his record, and so big bird, i guess, is a fun thing to talk about. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and mitt romney are heading back to ohio today in a very different situation than the last time they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney ahead among likely voters. it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that
can do both. i think romney is doing both and romney -- watching him right now is watching him go through the different phases of romney, 509s shades of romney shall we say. >> that's exactly what they have thought. so people have talked about this a lot. the notion of they were kind of a fork in the road in the spring. do we want to run against him as a flip flopping phony or run against -- coreless, their pitch before, or do we want to cast him as a right wing radical. they seemed to and did make a decision to do right wing radical and one on throughout. i talked about david plouffe about this in may and he said we're going do both when we have to. we're going to say mitt romney there he goes trying to flip flop, coreless a phony, but not forget where he actually is, and then this is -- we're going to keep trying to pin him back to these positions he's taken. i think they have been horrible since the debate, the obama campaign. they are -- jon ward understates the degree to which they are knocked off guard and they are flailing right now and the stuff they're saying, the big bir
on the next debate. both governor romney and president obama are doing a lot of preparation for the face off next week. >>shepard: any concern they will take off the spot line in danville? >>reporter: for all the attention that joe biden will come out swinging and paul ryan, the intellectual voice of the republican party and the face of the g.o.p. for the last couple of years, it is difficult in the format to do that. they could be, the candidates will not upstage the vice presidential candidates and they will be seated together at a table. you look at history of debates with the candidate seated next to one another, it is never as feisty. that works for paul ryan who is a real poll work and it works for joe biden because he has much more seniority and experience in the senate as the chairman of the foreign affairs committee and the vice president, who has been dealing with all kinds of major issues the last 3 1/2 years. >>shepard: thank you, carl cameron. the republican congressman is with us from illinois and the democratic congressman from california is with us, as well. gentleman, nice t
. >> it was not only very important for mitt romney's candidacy, paul, it was very important for us. i think he both rescued his candidacy and rescued the election. and quite honestly, the election to this point was kind of boring. it was boring because both candidates in different ways were making it boring. the president, and there have been reports, was kind of coasting through, thinking he had no real competition from mitt romney. and romney was out there basically, expressioning conservative platitudes without elaborating on them. we get to the debate and what mitt romney does is answer the two things i think most voters were looking for, why do you think that barack obama's presidency failed and what ways have he failed it. and what would you propose alternatives, and better than president obama does? >> he did both of those, went right at the obama record and something the president declined to talk about himself and went deep on his tax policy and his health policy, so he put some entirely new baseline for the election. >> paul: kim, there are a lot of republicans were willing to start writi
in romney's favor. last night, the show was all about biden versus biden. so the vice president gave both sides a lot to latch on to. for the democratic base, it was a great performance. biden went out and did exactly what president obama did not do in his first debate. he pressed his opponent. he gave an aggressive performance. for paul ryan, he stood on the stage or sat, in this case, and was able to hold his own against the vice president. >> so keith, do you think that congressman ryan held his own? >> i do not. >> surprise. i knew you were going to -- >> obviously mitt romney did a much better job, i think, last week. i don't think this -- >> let me pause you on that. you think mitt romney did a better job because so many democrats were saying the reason that the president struggled is because he was being hit with untruths and inaccuracies by mitt romney. how did that come as a better job when today you're not hear a lot of hard fact check at least rebuttal on what congressman ryan -- you may disagree with the policy plan but his facts in many cases were not as opposed as mitt romne
and governor romney are both holed up and hunkered done, getting ready for tuesday's big dae bait. their surrogates and spokespeople are out in full force, putting forth their views on the tightening polls. >> as i've said even when the polls were wildly positive for us, that these public polls are all over the place. and the reality of the race on the ground is that we're ahead, it's a little bit narrower than it was before the last debate. but we feel good about where we are and we've got a great ground game going. >> i think the race is very close. i think the wind is at governor romney's back and there's momentum you can see on the trail, you can see it in the data. but the country is pretty evenly divide and we've always felt this was going to be a close election. a close race. i knew that when we were behind in the polls, i know it now that we're ahead in the polls, but i believe that momentum is clearly on governor romney's side. >> look at how close this has become at the national level. a new gallup poll of registered voters gives the president a slim two-point edge. but
. obama would like to have spending end up at 23%. romney and ryan both want it down at 20%. so there's a clear difference, and they all agree on where it should go. what gets interesting is as you dig into the detail of what gets cut, and you'll see some very, i think, fascinating differences among these guys. so on social security, as you heard president obama say in the last debate, the three guys are actually in the same place. they want to spend the same amount on social security in the next ten years. when you get to medicare, romney and ryan are in the same place, but romney actually a as you also heard him say, wants to repeal the $716 billion. it's actually $900 billion of cuts. he would spend more on medicare than ryan or obama. and then you have obamacare. >> let me ask you really quickly. if anybody has heard, let me know. has mitt romney said what he wants to do with the $716 billion? >> essentially it would be used to get his spending down to that 20% level because you're going to see in a minute, he has a bunch of other places he wants to spend money. >> spend the $716
haven't really changed. this is a reference to the poll that suggest mitt romney moved up both nationally and in some key battle ground states, including some polls that show he's winning in the buckeye state. ohio for mr. romney is a must win. no republicans ever got into the white house without winning here first. the romney campaign says they're very happy with the condition of the fundamentals. they think they've dramatically shifted and the next 27 days are headed in their direction, bill. >> bill: thank you. carl cameron in ohio. thank you. >>> we're getting a new look at the stage for tomorrow night's vice presidential showdown. this is in danville, ken, southwest of lexington. you can see the debate live here on fox news channel. our coverage starts tomorrow night, just a tick before 9:00 o'clock eastern time and shep will be there, too. anchor studio b in the afternoon and the fox report live in danville, kentucky and then on your local fox station. check your local listings for that. >>> the defense secretary, leon panetta, confirming that the united states has deploy
this tuesday night, battle ground ohio. president obama and governor mitt romney are both in that crucial swing state tonight. four weeks to the day before the election, and some analysts are pointing out there is a change in the polls. today yet another round of opinion polls showing governor romney pulling ahead of the president after that big debate. the governor now has a two-point lead in the latest gallup poll of likely voters. before the debate, the president was up by five points in the same poll. the obama camp down playing the numbers. one campaign spokesman says he expected this to happen. a live look now in ohio where governor romney is getting ready for a rally. 18 electoral votes up for grabs four weeks from tonight. as i reported, no republican has won the white house without first winning ohio. the governor started his day in another battle ground state, iowa. he responded to one of the president's latest attack lines over the governor's pledge to cut funding for pbs. home of big bird. >> these are tough times with real serious issues. so you have to scratch your head when the p
trail, mitt romney stopped in mt. vernon, a manufacturing plant in a must-win state, owned by someone who has something in common with his wife, ann. >> they are both breast cancer survivors. >> reporter: the romney campaign hopes this is a sign of a trend, the polls surge showing that the trend is higher among women voters. on monday, he seemed to soften his position on abortion. during an interview with the des moines register >> there is no legislation on abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> reporter: the obama campaign jumped on the comment, writing, we know where he stands on a woman's right to choose, pointing to his last comments made in 2007. >> so i would like to see roe v wade overturned, and allow the states and the elected representatives and the people themselves have the ability to put in place the legislation. today in ohio, romney was pressed to clarify >> i think i said time and again, i'm a pro life candidate and will be a pro life president. >> reporter: meanwhile, president obama talked about his lackluster performance. >> it is f
of error it is still too close to call. how did the president and governor romney did at the debate? both are weighing in. >> well, governor romney i had a good night. i had a bad night. >> how bad? >> well, it is not the first time i've had a bad night. >> well, obviously the president wasn't happy with the response to our debate last night. >> what's your message to joe biden about tomorrow night? >> well i, you know, i think joe just needs to be joe. jon: joining us now is karl rove, former senior advisor and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and a fox news contributor. i want to get your take on that advice from the president. he said let joe be joe. isn't that kind of dangerous? >> depends who shows up. is it the gaffe meister who says he will put you all back in chains or the guy showed up at the debate in 2008 against sarah palin and did a very good job. jon: democrats say you will not see the un, the unchained, the loose cannon joe biden tonight. that he will be very much on message. do you expect that? >> i expect that. he has more experience in presidential debat
for their respective candidates. both campaigns aggressively attacking the other over what was said. the romney campaign going after joe biden about his comments about the consulate in benghazi. state department officials testified before a congressional hearing that they had turned down requests for additional security at that consulate. contrast that with what vice president biden said last evening. >> we weren't told they wanted more security there. we did not know they wanted more security again. and by the way we were told exactly, we said exactly what the intelligence community told us, that they knew, that was the assessment. and as the intelligence community changed their view we made it clear they changed their view. >> at the same time right now as this event is going on the white house is saying, well, wait a second, while the say the department knew about the requests the president and the vice president didn't know about them, which might seem to indicate some sort of massive disconnect in the post 9/11 efforts to get all of the government he tk departments talking to each other ab
on the line both men got in their jobs. >> romney is a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. and with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [laughter] it is empty mattally possible. it's been done before. precisely what we're prosing. >> it has never been done before. >> been done a couple times. jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. jon: they touched on the biggest issues for americans jobs and the economy. their messages directed at middle class voters. >> can you declare anything off limits? >> mortgage loopholes. higher deductions, from higher income people. >> can you guaranty no one making less than 100,000 have a mortgage deduction impacted? >> this tax as million small businesses. he keeps trying to make you think some movie star, hedge fund guy. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year. would the no be affected. >> this tax is a million people. a million small businesses. >> does it tax 97% of the american bu
mr. obama won in 2008. but where romney aides are confident a victory this time. both president obama and romney were on the stump yesterday in ohio where they bemoaned the president's lack of leadership. >> time and time again the president told us he'd take on these things and hasn't. he turns around and tries to blame others. congress won't get together. congress won't get together unless there is a strong lead they're puts them together. >> at the tail end of his meeting with the reverend billy graham, the reverend said to mitt romney i will do anything i can to help you, and that's on the record, though it was not on camera. romney and ryan reunite tomorrow in ohio. president is at the white house. mr. ryan in preparation for tonight's debate had nine debate rehearsals and they think he is ready to go against biden this evening. bret? >> bret: carl cameron in spin room. see you there in a few minutes. thank you, carl. how will tonight's debate impact the race? let me know on twitter. follow me. @bretbaier. new issues for two of the president green energy pet projects. i.r.s. is p
to fix the auto industry, but mitt romney did want to fix the auto industry. >> both of the sides had views about a managed bankruptcy, but don't believe the had headline that was attributed to mitt romney. >> it ultimately worked, by the way. >> you can make a fair argument, without question. >> get some sleep tonight. for those of you who missed it and you did get your sleep last night you'll get to watch the debate because we'll replay it. the entire vice presidential debate starts at 9:00 a.m. on the pacific coast today. don't miss it. so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. but i still have a runny nose. [ male announcer ] dayquil doesn't treat that. huh? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus rushes relief to all your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ sighs ] thank you! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male announcer ] you're welcome.
, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. [ female announcer ] he says... president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. [ female announcer ] but this is what the budget plan mitt romney supports actually does. more huge tax breaks skewed to the wealthy. while cutting nearly eight hundred billion from medicaid... even though middle-class families rely on medicaid to help loved ones cover nursing-home care. and it helps parents support children with disabilities. if mitt romney really "cares," wouldn't we see it in his priorities? . >>> it's been a turbulent few weeks for american airlines, thanks to flight cancellations and delays. and today, the all eyed pilot's association is -- and represents 10,000 pilots. they expect a fair contract. >> we took big cuts back in 9/11 to prevent the company from going into bankruptcy and piloting gave them 8$00 million in concessions. over the last deck seed, they took bonuses every year, hundreds of millions in bonuses. basically what we
with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney/ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. >>> while democrats are pleased with vice president biden's performance it's unclear whether his aggressive style was offensive or convincing to the independents who will hold the margin of victory in the presidential election. >> randall, let's talk more. it was obviously interesting to watch. what were the strong and weak points of the candidates? >> reporter: well, certainly vice president biden had to make sure that everyone knew that democrats would fight. i mean, remember that president obama himself said that he was too polite. no one could say that about biden as last night's showdown. ryan had to make sure he didn't lose any ground. this is his first venue for a national audience sitting opposite one of the most powerful democrats in the nation. and he held his own even as mitt romney is beginning to show some improvement i
on key turning points in both candidates' political careers such as mitt romney's disastrous perform nents 1994 debate with ted kennedy and president obama's loss to bobby rush in 2000. >> the debate was watched by over 3 million people. as many people as watched a super bowl in massachusetts. romney had these expectations that he was going to win up to here, and suddenly kennedy's up to here and romney's here. the race is over. >> in the end voters decided to stick with bobby rush by a huge, huge, huge margin. it was a very bruising loss for him. >> actress stacy dash, best known nor role in the '90s film "clueless" is endorsing mitt romney. she said, quote, vote for romney, the only choice for your future. those are the things we just thought you should know. [ male announcer ] unitedhealthcare wants to know "what do you want from a medicare plan?" i just want a company that helps me get the most out of my healthcare. i want it to be simple. one plan. one card to carry. i want lower copays... and i want my drugs covered. [ male announcer ] say "hello" to more of what you want with
't have to write it down. both president obama and mitt romney have entire policy positions on immigration they laid out online. what this does for us in my industry is gives us a play to follow their promises that whoever becomes a president can be held to the promises. the cnn political ticker has breaking political news all the time, in and out, every day. we have an entire section there that's all about immigration. so when you hear a new ashert s assertion or change where a candidate stands, we will have it for you. everything right here is linked up at twitter and facebook. while we talk about that, i want you to know something on twitter. i have it #rtfacts. i'm using this to get you hard facts. the presidential debate made it so clear how desperately this is needed for falsehoods and muddled conversation that leave millions confused as to what is going on. join me at that hash tag. the more we learn about whaez candidates promise to do and b, what's actually been down, the better off we all are as voting publics. >> absolutely. thanks so much helping to keep us informed. >>> we go
go about doing that? >> i think that both ryan and romney need to do what they are doing right now, go to directly to the american people and give them their plan. most people need to hear something seven times before it actually sinks in. just continuing to do what they have done so far and just being very articulate. >> gregg: let me stop you there. the criticism of that plan, in terms of the approach of reducing tax marginal tax rates and increasing revenues and the cost it might add to the deficit is criticized as being non-specific. how do they respond to that? >> governor romney has laid out a framework. any time you have a plan such as this, you don't want to put all the details out there because there are negotiations that need to take place. the framework has been looked up by six different independent organizations including those from harvard and princeton. to say this plan will work. so the details don't need to be out there right now. the framework is very clear about what mitt romney and paul ryan want to do to strengthen our middle-class. >> gregg: i might say that t
in common with his wife, ann. >> they are both breast cancer survivors. >> reporter: the romney campaign hopes this is a sign of a trend, the polls surge showing that the trend is higher among women voters. on monday, he seemed to soften his position on abortion. >> there is no legislation on abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> reporter: the obama campaign jumped on the comment, writing, we know where he stands on a woman's right to choose, pointing to last comments made in 2007. >> so i would like to see roev wade, where people themselves have the ability to put in pro-life legislation. >> reporter: today in ohio, romney was pressed to clarify. >> i think i said time and again, i'm a pro life candidate and will be a pro life president. >> reporter: meanwhile, president obama talked about his lackluster performance. >> it is fair to say i was too polite. >> reporter: bill clinton mocked romney in las vegas monday. >> i had a different reaction to the first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i thought wow. here is old moderate mitt. where you been
room. the role of the vice president has changed considerably, and i would give credit to both romney and obama for picking a vice presidential nominee that not only could help them get elected but could help them govern. i think these are both, to a degree, responsible selections in that respect. i think no matter who wins, we will see either ryan for biden -- or biden play a significant role over the next four years. >> we are previewing the upcoming debate in danville, kentucky, and throwing in some vice-presidential trivia all along the way. let me share with you one of the mamas from 2010 during the height of the health-care debate, a meeting that took place at blair house across the street from the white house, and comments by then congressman ryan on the health care bill and the vice-president. >> the bill has 10 years of tax increases, about $500 billion, with 10 years of medicare cuts, about $500 billion, to pay for six years of spending. what is the true 10-year cost of this bill? in 10 years, that is $2.3 trillion. it does a couple of other things -- it takes $52 billion in
compared with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney/ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. randall pinkston, cbs news, danville, kentucky. and we can expect those poll results to change in the coming days as the samples are increased and the polling organizations dig deeper on the impact of these first and only vice-presidential debates. reporting live in danville, kentucky, i'm randall pinkston, back to you. >> randall, it's certainly interesting to watch a lot more sparks in this debate than the presidential debate. what were considered the strong and weak points of the candidate? >> well, after president obama's performance last week democrats have to show they are willing to fight and also defend the president's record. biden certainly did that. for mitt ryan, he had to stand up there with one of the most famous most powerful democrats in the nation his first time out on that kind of stage and he held his own
will be with mitt romney in lancaster, ohio, at 5:40 p.m. both of them will be airing on c-span. right now, it is time for us to play, in its entirety, tonight's presidential visit vice- presidential debate in kentucky. -- tonight's vice presidential debate in kentucky. i am martha raddatz. i am honored to moderate this debate between the two men who have dedicated much of their lives to public service. it is divided between domestic and foreign policy issues. i will move back and forth between foreign and domestic. we will have nine different segments. at the beginning of each segment, i will ask both candidates a question and they will each have two minutes to answer. i will encourage discussion between the candidate with follow-up question. it has been determined that the vice president biden will be first to answer the opening question. we have a wonderful audience here at centre college. right now, we welcome vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. [applause] hos[captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]
there and do what president obama failed to do last week. >> reporter: with the race still tight, both president obama and mitt romney, watched closely. >> i thought joe biden was terrific tonight. i could not be prouder of him. >> reporter: and in the end, their running mates even shared a few laughs. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. >> reporter: that got a lot of laughs last night. now, the next big debate is next tuesday. that's when we see president obama and mitt romney faceoff for round two in new york. reporting live in danville, kentucky, brandi hitt. rob and paula, back to you. >> look forward to round two. abc's brandi hitt reporting this morning from danville, kentucky. thanks, brandi. >>> and president obama, as you heard, gave vice president biden's performance a thumbs-up last night. he watched the debate aboard air force one, returning from one of his last fund-raising events before the election. the president chided mr. romney for calling himself, quote, severe
if necessary compared with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balanced and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney-ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. randall pinkston, cbs news, danville, kentucky. >> if you plan in voting in maryland, d.c. or virginia in the upcoming november election and you haven't registered to vote, you only have a few days left. in virginia you have till monday. maryland tuesday is the last day to register. d.c. it's friday, october 19 and you have to do it in person in d.c. for more on voter registration, go to wusa9.com and look under campaign 2012. >>> another d.c. lawmaker is being accused of ethics violations. it's all related to a bad real estate deal. the washington metropolitan area authority said jim graham allegedly said he would support a project if the developer agreed to pull out of a metro development project on 7th and florida avenue. graham was a sitting board member at the time. the allegations come after a four-month lon
position is very consistent. >> ana, you heard from both of them. romney has moved to the center, appears to have moved from the center. could it backfire both with his base and perhaps undecideds who don't think he holds sincere beliefs? and even with women, aafter hearing that comment from the des moines register and then saying something that appears to be different. could that change that? >> don, you know i haven't been mitt romney's biggest defender or biggest fan but i don't really see a great inconsistency in what he said and what he has said. he said he won't be pursuing legislation. i'm glad to hear that. frank frankly the difference between taking executive action or pursuing legislation is a big one. it takes a lot of political capital to get legislation through. i don't think you will get any sort of abortion rights or abortionless legislation through a democrat senate or very close held senate. >> can you more be more specific about why you think that it's not a flip flop? why don't you think this is a big deal? >> because i -- you know, he's saying he's not going to pursue
. again, it's a critical state not only for the president but for mitt romney, and that's why you see them both spending so much time in the state of ohio. >> all right. dan lothian traveling with the president there on the west coast. sthoonks much. republican mitt romney is spending the weekend in florida where he's talking to crowds and trying to win their support. he spent yesterday preparing for the next debate. it's a must-win state if he wants to capture the white house, and today romney again wednesday on the offense against president obama on health care. >> if he is re-elected, he will install obama care. with it your xwrpremiums will gp an extra $2,500 above what they already are according to the congressional budget office. my plan is that i will finally get control of the excessive costs in health care by repealing and replacing obama care with real reforms. >> romney and obama will debate again just nine days from now, october 16th. you can watch the vice presidential debate right here on cnn this week. joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eas
'm barack obama, and i approve this message. [ femalele announcer ] he says... president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. [ female announcer ] but this is what the budget plan mitt romney supports actually does. more huge tax breaks skewed to the wealthy. while cutting nearly eight hundred billion from medicaid... even though middle-class families rely on medicaid to help loved ones cover nursing-home care. and it helps parents support children with disabilities. if mitt romney really "cares," wouldn't we see it in his priorities? when president obama couldn't. first, my energy independence policy means more than three million new jobs. many of them in manufacturing. my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and for small business creates seven million more. and expanding trade, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. take away his toys and he'll toplay with a stick.ew jobs. take away their bikes and they'll still find a way to get where they're going. but
. the fight for florida is a statistical dead heat. and romney has narrowed the gap this ohio, although the buckeye state, what every republican needs to win the white house, is still solidly in obama's corner. >> this is the conversation we were having before both conventions. so almost as everything has been erased. >> i think it accounts for the hemorrhaging that they let romney back in. >> joining me now is ed schultz host of the ed show. and let's start with this. congressman ryan as well as the chairman both trying to set the stage for tonight. let's listen. >> joe biden's been on will stage many times before. this is my first time. so, sure, it's a nervous situation. because joe biden is one of the most experienced debaters we have in modern politics. >> this is miss firhis first ti. joe biden's been doing this since the 1800s. he'll do a solid job. >> so when you listen to this, the base was pretty upset last night. you were quite passionate after the debate. will biden bring the old meat ax tonight? >> i don't think vice president biden will win or lose the election tonight, bu
the politician and a policy person. a young person and an old person. i think on both scores, ryan will really help romney. we have to realize how much of obama's appeal is generational. when you you are putting on a v.p. debate with a 25 or 25-year, i guess, difference in age, and one who is kind of a haggard regular old-time bomb baftic politician, and the other, a very incisive, sharp, focused policy person, i think that you really are going to see ryan have a tremendous edge. the other thing is that ryan wrote the romney program. this is not just a candidate for v.p., his the intellectual leader of the republican party today. for him to be up there debating in a political debate is like, you know, it's like mickey mantle coming to bat because he -- he wrote all of these programs. he knows these budgets. he knows these figures and biden is only vaguely aqaipted with them. i think ryan is going to do extremely well and that will be decisive. i think we are looking now at a whole new band of states coming into play, michigan, pennsylvania, new jersey. a bunch of states that nobody would have
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